Room Conversation , Vṛndāvana , 1977-10-30

Pañca-draviḍa: Now only one thing is needed, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Pañca-draviḍa: To have you sitting on the vyāsāsana and preaching like a lion.

Prabhupāda: Yes, I wanted to say something. Let us see. [break]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: [devotees laugh] We had no father, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda: That is another thing.

Pañca-draviḍa: And no money also. [laughing]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No. We were vagabonds. We were loitering in the street, and you invited us into your home. That's actually a fact. You fed us prasādam, cooked for us. You taught us how to be human beings.

Pañca-draviḍa: Just like these gurukula kids. You have also taught us even how to dress ourself.

Jayādvaita: And you brought us to Vṛndāvana, richest place.

Pañca-draviḍa: Full of desire trees and jewels.

Prabhupāda: You can provide five hundred students very easily.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Such a nice building. Who would not like to go to school here in Vṛndāvana? Nice, pure atmosphere. [break]

Vrindavan De: [Bengali]

Śatadhanya: ...Vrindavan, he's going to Delhi. From Delhi he'll go to Calcutta.

Prabhupāda: Oh. Oh, Vrindavan.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda: [Bengali]

Vrindavan De: [Bengali with Prabhupāda]

Prabhupāda: [Bengali] Where is the money? [Bengali] We cannot put fire in the flesh.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: [quietly] Can't put good money after bad money.

Prabhupāda: [Bengali] ...you have lost already fifty thousand... [Bengali with Vrindavan]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Upendra, you should get Prabhupāda ready, because the parikramā's ready.

Prabhupāda: [Bengali with Vrindavan] [break]

Kavirāja: [Hindi with Prabhupāda and Bhakti-caru]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Little swelling around the...

Bhakti-caru: Eyelid.

Prabhupāda: Hmm?

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: There's a little swelling today here, Śrīla Prabhupāda, around the eye. And the hands are kind of swollen.

Kavirāja: [Hindi with Prabhupāda and Bhakti-caru]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What's that, Bhakti-caru?

Bhakti-caru: When the skin sags, that means that it's...

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Going away. Yeah, but here it's...

Bhakti-caru: I was telling him that it comes and goes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, it comes and goes. But in the eye it's very much today.

Bhakti-caru: [Bengali with kavirāja] Did he pass stool day before yesterday? Very little in the morning.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Only a little.

Kavirāja: [Hindi with Bhakti-caru]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda? I think the kavirāja had a dream last night. [to kavirāja:] You had a dream.

Bhakti-caru: Svapna.

Kavirāja: [Hindi] [The kavirāja had a dream in which Prabhupāda was taking medicine and getting better, so he decided to stay a few more days.]

Prabhupāda: [Hindi conversation with kavirāja]

Bhakti-caru: [Hindi conversation with kavirāja; kavirāja mentions milk, barley, Horlicks, coughing, etc.]

Prabhupāda: [Hindi = "Horlicks, not milk"]

Pañca-draviḍa: He likes Horlicks.

Bhakti-caru: The doctor said he should take Horlicks and barley, little bit.

Kavirāja: [Hindi]

Bhakti-caru: [Hindi with kavirāja]

Prabhupāda: About that distilling machine? [Hindi]

Bhakti-caru: [Hindi with kavirāja and Prabhupāda, asking Prabhupāda questions in Bengali; explaining about medicines being distilled] There's another Āyurvedic physician in Raṅgajī's temple. He's going to arrange for that. Yesterday he already asked him. And he'll be coming today also.

[long Bengali and Hindi conversation between kavirāja, Bhakti-caru and Prabhupāda; talking initially about medicine but then also Calcutta, Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma Mandir, Albert Rd, Hindi High School, bhavauṣadhi]

Prabhupāda: Saṁsāra-dāvānala-līḍha-loka.

Kavirāja: [Hindi about Caitanya Mahāprabhu, Rāmānujācārya, Śaṅkarācārya]

Prabhupāda: [Hindi] ...London, San Fransisco, Los Angeles...

Kavirāja: [Hindi about gurukula] [break] [Hindi with Prabhupāda, mentions brochitis]

Prabhupāda: Titiksava karunika suhrida sarva bhutanam ajata-satrava santa sadhva sadhu-bhusana [SB 3.25.21].

Kavirāja: [Hindi with Prabhupāda]

Bhakti-caru = [reading list] [Hindi = What was that salt?]

Kavirāja: Narkatura[?] [Hindi]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda? Your Godbrothers Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī and Ānanda Prabhu, they are here. You want to see them? Also, someone told me that Bon Mahārāja has returned to Vṛndāvana. Is there any reason to call him here?

Prabhupāda: If he likes, he can come.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay. We don't have to invite him to come. He knows you're here. So he should come of his own accord if he wants. Okay.

Bhakti-caru: [Hindi with kavirāja; asks again about salt]

Prabhupāda: Where is Bābājī Mahārāja?

Upendra: Bhavānanda?

Bhakti-caru: No, Bābājī.

Upendra: Just coming.

Kavirāja: Narkatura[?] [Hindi with Prabhupāda]

Bhakti-caru: [Hindi with kavirāja]

Kavirāja: [Hindi with assistant kavirāja?]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda? I just now can't find Kṛṣṇa dāsa. I'll continue to look. I just saw him about ten minutes ago, told him one minute. When I came back... Maybe he's walking around. If I find him then I'll send him. I'll continue to look for him.

Kavirāja: [Hindi with assistant kavirāja? discussing urine amounts etc.]

[Prabhupāda's Godbrothers arive]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī.

Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī: Haribol.

Prabhupāda: [Bengali---conversation with Godbrothers; laughter]

[background discussion between kavirāja and assistant continues; gives intructions to Bhakti-caru]

Prabhupāda: [Bengali---long conversation with Godbrothers, interspersed with Hindi comments from kavirāja; discusses Māyāpur and Vaiṣṇava-sampradāya] ...Statesman, scientific conference... [conversation continues, with many Sanskrit verses quoted by kavirāja]

Svarūpa Dāmodara = [whispering] I've got two newspapers.

Upendra: This is the article.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Can you read it?

Upendra: [reading] This is from The Statesman, 24th October, 197... No?

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Twenty-second.

Upendra: Twenty-second. "The Non-Physical View on the..." Here.

Bhakti-caru: [reads Statesman article] "The Non-Physical View on the Origin of Species. Materialists and men of faith continue to disagree over the origins of life. According to the first group, life is derived from atoms and molecules. The Russian scientist Dr. A. I. Oparin has been propagating this view since 1957, but his challengers demand 'really solid examples of life arising from matter.' " [break]

Prabhupāda: [Bengali comments with Godbrothers] Tad uttamaśloka guṇopalambhakam [SB 6.2.11]. [Hindi comments by others] [Bengali to Bhakti-caru]

Bhakti-caru: Svarūpa Dāmodara.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: [Hindi with Prabhupāda] Oh, I also gave a lecture on the life and its origin. In Mathurā there is one veterinary college, the biggest in Asia, about two hundred scholars. We also showed "Hare Kṛṣṇa Frontier," "Spiritual Frontier" movies. They liked very much. And we're having another lecture on Thursday. It will be given by Thompson in All-India Institute of Medical Sciences. There will be about some two hundred, three hundred scholars from around Delhi. We'll be discussing about life in its origin. And also we are planning to give several lecture in Delhi University, in the mathematics, biology and physics departments.

Prabhupāda: [Bengali]...apareyam itas tu viddhi me param [Bg. 7.5]. [Hindi and Bengali comments from guests]

Svarūpa Dāmodara: We have also written books like this. Maybe I can show you. This is a... [Bengali from guests] This is our worldwide preaching program. This is Prabhupāda...

Prabhupāda: [Bengali] Dr. Svarūpa Dāmodara. [Bengali conversation]

Svarūpa Dāmodara = Prabhupada's mercy.

Prabhupāda: [Bengali conversation]

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Offices in Boston, Vṛndāvana, Bombay.

[Bengali and Hindi conversation]

Prabhupāda: [Bengali and Hindi conversation] No sentiment---"Come on," scientific challenge. [Bengali] No theory. [Bengali conversation] ...Hindi [Hindi] hotcakes. Hindi Bhagavad-gītā... [Bengali conversation---Svarūpa Dāmodara and others showing and describing different books in Hindi, Bengali]

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Ten thousand Bhagavad-gītā, Hindi.

Prabhupāda: [Bengali, telling about Fiji and Kṛṣṇa-kāliya]

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Here is Kṛṣṇa-kāliya, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda: Ah. [guests exclaim] Jaya. [Bengali conversation] What is that?

Śatadhanya: Well, we're just... This is the Bhāgavata-darśana in Bengali. They've seen it, right?

Prabhupāda: [Bengali conversation, with devotees showing Godbrothers various news-clippings, books, photos, etc.]

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Fiji special. Special master of the Movement, from the Hare Kṛṣṇa Movement in Lautoka. Pictures.

Prabhupāda: Mauritius Island.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Mauritius.

Prabhupāda: Fiji. Hawaii.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Kṛṣṇa-kāliya temple at Lautoka. The devotees.

Prabhupāda: [Bengali about Fiji temple]

Svarūpa Dāmodara: The temple is there.

Upendra: There's the dome.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: It says, "How the Hare Kṛṣṇa came to Fiji." It's written.

Prabhupāda: South Africa... [Bengali]

Upendra: South Africa newspaper. Articles.

Prabhupāda: [Bengali]

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Prabhupāda wants to turn this side.

Prabhupāda: [Bengali] [indistinct comments by devotees as they turn Prabhupāda]

Upendra: Here. South African article.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: In the South African paper. Hare Kṛṣṇa festivities, South Africa.

Prabhupāda: [Bengali conversation as they look at pictures and article, with Svarūpa Dāmodara explaining about festival and go-pūjā] ...Caitanya Mahaprabhu, pṛthivīte āche yata nagarādi grāma [CB Antya-khaṇḍa 4.126]... [Bengali conversation continues, about Fiji, foundation stone, gurukula] ...kīrtanīya sadā hariḥ [Cc. Ādi 17.31]. [Bengali---asks Svarūpa Dāmodara to tell of round-table conference]

Svarūpa Dāmodara = [Bengali] Indian National Science Academy. [Bengali] ...auditorium, about 450 capacity.

[Bengali conversation continues; devotees arrange to bring prasāda; Kṛṣṇa dāsa Bābājī sings prasāda prayers]

Prabhupāda: [Bengali conversation as guests leave room] [break] Just get the curtain and try for urine.

Śatadhanya: Yes, Prabhupāda. [indistinct background comments] It's set, Śrīla Prabhupāda. [end]