Room Conversation , Los Angeles , 1972-09-29

Prabhupāda: [Bengali]

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Eh?

Prabhupāda: [Bengali]

Svarūpa Dāmodara: [Bengali]

Prabhupāda: Oh simply warning?

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Just warning.

Prabhupāda: Ah acha. hirud tinak die vidya vidya high tine tine tak, hirud tinak die vidya vidya high tine tine tak, hirud tinak die vidya vidya high tine tine tak.[?] [door opens]

Pradyumna: Śrīla Prabhupāda something about the tickets. We have those around the world tickets, we have round the world tickets and those tickets have a certain amount of. Have an itinerary. The itinerary is that we go from.

Prabhupāda: That you understand, I cannot remember.

Pradyumna: Well eh, there’s just one thing, that Karāndhara wanted me to ask about. That the tickets are going to be ah, $1900 apiece.

Prabhupāda: Ah.

Pradyumna: And Karāndhara just wanted you to know that the money is coming out of the book fund.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Ask Karāndhara to see me. Yes... That is the... Called tactics. If the teachers are rascals themselves then there won’t be any fight. There should be [indistinct]. You know the tigers in the circus?

Karāndhara: Yes. They pull out the whip but they never hit the tiger.

Prabhupāda: Eh?

Karāndhara: They never hit the tiger.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Karāndhara: They just crack the whip.

Prabhupāda: The tiger is so afraid simply by seeing that---he shuddered. Summarily it is not used. Simply in the hand. That is tactic. So if a tiger can be trained in that way, an animal, a ferocious animal and they cannot train the children? It needs a good teacher[?] Children will cry they will fight but you have to create. Teachers [indistinct] [LOUD] TAK! TAK! TAK! Immediately they stop.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: [laughs]

Prabhupāda: I have seen it... In our childhood I remember two teachers, we were so afraid we would going 50 miles away to avoid.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: [laughs]

Prabhupāda: It is [indistinct] even though [indistinct]. "What is Bhagavān doing he has had so many accidents." It was going in the [indistinct] immediately transferred. He created such an atmosphere simply by seeing, all the children cried.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Even in the [indistinct] we have some afraid---some type of fearness with the professors also [indistinct] we don’t have any.

Prabhupāda: Well that is required or deviance is the first form...

[Long pause]

So you have, recording department has not paid me.

Karāndhara: Not paid?

Prabhupāda: Not paid and so what is that?

Svarūpa Dāmodara: [laughs]

Kṛṣṇa-kānti: I mean about the credit?

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Kṛṣṇa-kānti: Yes its royalties. We pay from the records that sold.

Prabhupāda: And when it will be sold?

Kṛṣṇa-kānti: Well the first record will be ready in about a week.

Karāndhara: They are bringing it [indistinct] did they get more work done on it?

Kṛṣṇa-kānti: Yes [indistinct].

Prabhupāda: There was, there was a contract between a teacher and his students, law students. So the students says, "Sir I have no money I shall pay you when I practical." [indistinct] so he says, "all right." So after learning the law, so he was not going to the court... [indistinct]

Svarūpa Dāmodara: [laughs]

Prabhupāda: [laughs] So this proposal is like that.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: [laughs]

Prabhupāda: Making recording, there is no sales, [indistinct] there is no sales, so when there is sales I’ll pay [indistinct]

Kṛṣṇa-kānti: It is common standard practice in the recording...

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Kṛṣṇa-kānti: So when the sale is made the artist.

Prabhupāda: Eh?

Kṛṣṇa-kānti: Artist don’t usually get paid [indistinct]

Prabhupāda: Artist do not get paid?

Kṛṣṇa-kānti: No.

Karāndhara: Sometimes they get advancement but goes against our future development. [indistinct]

Prabhupāda: Oh yes. So you can practice it. Then the teacher did one practise he found a suitable criminal.

Karāndhara: He [indistinct] in the court.

Prabhupāda: Eh?

Karāndhara: He [indistinct] in the court.

Prabhupāda: Yes. So.

Karāndhara: No respect for him.

Prabhupāda: He wanted defence to rebel so then he said finally, "my Lord either you let him pay you know now he is practising." This is called tit-for-tat.

Karāndhara: Tit for tat?

Prabhupāda: [indistinct] Tit-for-tat. The student was also clever but the teacher was also more clever. All right.

[Devotee’s leave offering their obeisances]

Prabhupāda: turn it off?

Devotee: No it’s [indistinct]... [end]