Initiations , Detroit , 1971-07-18

Prabhupāda: The ten offenses, explain. [japa]

Jagadīśa: [explains ten offenses]

So there are 10 offences. One must be very careful to avoid in chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra, explained here. The first, to blaspheme the devotees who have dedicated their lives for propagating the holy name of the Lord.

This means one must be free from envy—especially of the spiritual master. In the Nectar of Devotion, it is explained that one may not envy the spiritual master as he would an ordinary man. One may not be envious of the spiritual master, this enviousness of the spiritual master—blaspheme the spiritual master's position. The spiritual master being an emissary of Kṛṣṇa. An ambassador, just like if the ambassador of United States, suppose France was insulted then it is taken as an insult by the president. It is taken as an insult, by the leader of the country.

So the ambassador is just a representative, but the offence to the ambassador is not forgiven, in the case of a pure devotee Kṛṣṇa never forgives this offence. Because the pure devotee, the spiritual master is so dear to Kṛṣṇa performing the most beneficial activity to reform souls in the material world and thereby as Kṛṣṇa explains in the 18th chapter of the Bhagavad-gītā. There He explains this science of devotional service, the devotee is the most dear to the Lord. So therefore anyone who blasphemes or insults the spiritual master, the pure devotee is automatically becoming greatly hindered in his advancement in devotional service.

In fact it is called a 'mad elephant' offence to offend a pure devotee. Just as in a garden there are so many nice flowers and plants growing but if an elephant gets into the garden. If a 'mad elephant' gets into the garden then all the vines and flowers are torn, torn away from the roots. And so with devotional service, the creeper of devotional service can be completely destroyed by this offence to the pure devotee. This must be avoided.

The second offence. "To consider the names of the demigods like Lord Śiva or Lord Brahmā to be equal to or independent of the name of Lord Viṣṇu." Sometimes the atheistic class of men take it that any demigod is as good as the Supreme Personality of Godhead Viṣṇu but one who is a devotee knows that no demigod no matter how great he may be is independently as good as the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Therefore if somebody thinks that he can chant, "Kālī, Kālī," or "Durgā, Durgā," and it is the same as Hare Kṛṣṇa, that is the greatest offence.

So, also in the Nectar of Devotion it is described that one who thinks of the demigods on an equal level with Kṛṣṇa or he thinks that it is alright that if you worship the demigods you will get to Kṛṣṇa, he is considered an atheist. He is not understanding the Supreme Personality of Godhead and his position as the supreme over all the spiritual world and material world.

The demigods are merely living entities like ourselves, emanations from Kṛṣṇa. They cannot be accepted as God. Sometimes they are accepted by foolish men, these foolish men are accepting, this is atheistic. So we should be careful to avoid comparing the demigods with the Lord placing them on any kind of equal level with the Supreme Personality Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa is the source of the demigods, as He explains in the Bhagavad-gītā and in the 9th chapter all about spiritual knowledge, Kṛṣṇa says, "Whatever is offered to the demigods is actually meant for Me. Albeit without due understanding—for I am the source of the demigods."

"The third offence is to disobey the orders of the spiritual master." The spiritual master's instructions are given explicitly to the devotees so that he may make advancement so if the devotee neglects to follow these instructions of the spiritual master, his advancement will be in trouble. In the Bhagavad-gītā Lord Kṛṣṇa tells Arjuna, "Never mind, don't consider loss or gain, victory or defeat, just fight for the sake of fighting—just fight."

So one must... In the purport Śrīla Prabhupāda explains, one must execute the instructions of the spiritual master as if in military discipline, that may seem troublesome [indistinct]. But the troubles will preposter[?] tapasya, the difficulty will only go on by the disciples because he is following the instructions of the spiritual master. This is the key, this is the key to advancement in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. After all the devotee must learn to hate sense enjoyment. This tapasya means the giving up of sense enjoyment for the satisfaction of the Supreme Lord. This is very beneficial for advancing in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. It must be accepted, if one neglects or disobeys the orders of the spiritual master his progress is greatly hindered.

"To blaspheme the Vedic literature or literature in pursuance of the Vedic version." Just like [break] Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam may contain many stories like Lord Kṛṣṇa when He was in Dvārakā from each of His 16,108 palaces each day He would give away thousands of cows. Material [?], this material nature[?] so, so many cows every day were being given away by Kṛṣṇa. This is inconceivable we can't understand so many instances, parts of the scriptures will seem inconceivable. But we must accept it as it is, we cannot test.

We can test by following the instructions of the spiritual master then all will become revealed by Kṛṣṇa's causeless mercy. This is Kṛṣṇa's inconceivable potency. The example is given of cow dung and conch shell, being the bone and stool of an animal. Ordinarily even if one touches dung or stool of an animal he must immediately bathe, or the bone.

But the bone of a conch shell and the dung of cow dung these are pure, it is stated in the Vedic scriptures. It may be doubted, you may say, "Oh this is contradictory because it also says as soon as one may touch the dung of an animal, stool of an animal one must bathe." But the scientists are discovering, yes. The stool of a cow, cow dung is full of all antiseptic properties. So the Vedic scriptures and literatures in pursuance of the Vedic version, all are perfect but they must come in disciplic succession.

Literatures in pursuance of the Vedic version coming through Rūpa Gosvāmī, Jīva Gosvāmī, Bilvamaṅgala dāsa Ṭhākura, Bhaktivinode Ṭhākura, Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura and Śrīla Prabhupāda. All these literatures coming through disciplic succession in pursuance of the Vedic version must be accept the cent percent as the absolute truth. One must not blaspheme these gurus.

The next offence is, "to consider the glories of chanting Hare Krishna to be imagination." Very simply this is just [indistinct] to be mental speculation. Anyone who chants seriously, sincerely with a view to understanding Kṛṣṇa and becoming purified to gain relief from material miseries. Anyone, four classes of men come to Kṛṣṇa. Those in want of money, those in material distress, those who are curious and those who are in knowledge.

Anyone of these men by chanting Hare Krishna seriously, just after a short time though note the effect. And only because of someone's entanglement, mental activities, mental speculation would they consider this chanting an imaginative process. So we must be careful to avoid all speculation about chanting the holy name. The holy names are pure and this can be experienced by anyone and everyone. [indistinct]

And the next offence, "To interpret the holy name of the Lord." This again, the name of the Lord is non-different from the Lord himself. It can't be changed, Kṛṣṇa is non-different from Kṛṣṇa the personality and it can be understood by any intelligent man verified [indistinct]

By hearing Hare Krishna from the authorised spiritual master everyone even if he a very sinful person can become free and can eventually come to a purified state because of the potency of the chanting of Hare Krishna. So we cannot interpret, Kṛṣṇa gives full information about His name. Kṛṣṇa's name, His self, His pastimes...

Prabhupāda: [aside:] Give them chairs. Some ladies are standing.

Jagadīśa: ...paraphernalia, are all the same, same on the absolute level.

So the next offence is, "To commit sinful activities on the strength of the holy name of the Lord. Because by chanting the holy name of the Lord one can be freed from all kinds of sinful reactions, it should not be taken that one may continue to act sinfully and after that chant Hare Kṛṣṇa to neutralize his sins. Such a mentality is very dangerous and should be avoided."

So Kṛṣṇa being the supreme absolute truth Personality of Godhead gives us this chanting of Hare Krishna to come to Him, chant Hare Krishna you can go back home, back to Godhead and come to Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa and His name are non-different, devotional service and the kingdom of God are the same. Devotional service is the beginning of the process in practice. Devotional service and the practice are all bhakti and in the end devotional service is the end.

Devotional service is non-different from Kṛṣṇa as well, so we must chant and engage in Kṛṣṇa's devotional service. But if we think we can chant and allow our senses still to go still freely, this is a mistake. You may think, "Oh I will be freed anyway, I will be purified by chanting and then indulge, think about meditate on or engage in some way in the objects of the senses. This is like trying to light a fire while pouring water on the thing.

How can you cleanse the lust if you are remaining lustful? If you are deceiving and give in to your lustful desires while meditating on the objects of the senses, or engaging with the objects of the senses at the same time trying to become purified. No, one must try to control the senses. Controlling the senses is very important, we must control our mind and if the senses are out of control the mind cannot be controlled.

So the senses must be controlled by meditating on Kṛṣṇa's lotus feet. The Deity in the temple, the picture of Kṛṣṇa, the picture of Vṛndāvana, by controlling our senses, by burning incense in the temple, the smelling of flowers offered to the Deities. Controlling the sense of touch, chanting japa, playing instruments, [indistinct], dancing for Kṛṣṇa.

Another sense the tongue, chanting Hare Krishna, taking bhāgavata prasādam. Then the hearing, of course by hearing the transcendental vibration Hare Krishna. All the senses must be controlled this way then the mind will be controlled. And we can focus the mind on Kṛṣṇa's lotus feet. The mind will be wavering here and there, but if we control the lower self...

Prabhupāda: Or, in other words, when you fix up your mind in Kṛṣṇa, then senses will be automatically controlled.

Jagadīśa: Ah.

Prabhupāda: This way is difficult. That way is easy. You fix up your mind... Sa vai manaḥ kṛṣṇa-padāravindayor vacāṁsi vaikuṇṭha-guṇānuvarṇane [SB 9.4.18]. Ambarīṣa Mahārāja, he was a emperor, but he was a great devotee. How? He always fixed up his mind on the lotus feet of Kṛṣṇa. Vacāṁsi. Sa vai manaḥ kṛṣṇa-padāravindayor. Kṛṣṇa-padāravindayor, on the lotus feet of Kṛṣṇa, he fixed up his mind. Vacāṁsi vaikuṇṭha-guṇānuvarṇane.

The next is the tongue. Mind fixed up, then the next sense is, important sense, is the tongue. Next to the mind, the tongue should be controlled. How? By chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa and eating kṛṣṇa-prasādam. Then other senses will be automatically controlled.

[continues chanting japa]

Jagadīśa: [continues lecture] Then there will be no more sinful activities if the mind is fixed on Kṛṣṇa and the tongue is fixed on Kṛṣṇa. Sinful activities on [indistinct]. One must know the goal by intelligence. We must know the goal...

Prabhupāda: That verse is not quoted there? Sa vai manaḥ kṛṣṇa-padāravindayor vacāṁsi vaikuṇṭha-guṇānuvarṇane [SB 9.4.18]. Leg should be engaged to go to the temple of Kṛṣṇa. Hand should be engaged for cleansing the temple. Nose should be engaged for smelling tulasī which is offered to the lotus feet of Kṛṣṇa. Ear should be engaged for hearing about Kṛṣṇa. Eyes should be engaged for seeing Kṛṣṇa beautifully dressed.

These things are... In this way, the temple worship means all these senses being engaged in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, mind and senses. Then they can..., cannot do any harm. They're already engaged. They cannot have any other engagement. And if you keep vacant the mind and the senses, then māyā will capture. Then eye will go to see the cinema and tongue will go to the restaurant, for [indistinct] steak, what is called? These things will be engaged. [laughter] Yes. [continues japa]

Jagadīśa: [continues lecture] The next offence to be avoided is, "To consider the chanting of Hare Kṛṣṇa as one of the auspicious ritualistic activities which are offered in the Vedas as fruitive activities karma-kāṇḍa."

In the Bhagavad-gītā also it is explained that when your mind has become free from the dense forest of delusion then you will be indifferent to all that is given[?] and all that is to be imparted [?]. By chanting Hare Krishna one becomes immediately free from the dense forest of delusion, I mean ignorance of Kṛṣṇa.

Remembering Kṛṣṇa and remembering His holy name thereby remembering His lotus feet one is automatically fulfilling all the purposes of the Vedas. In the second chapter of the Bhagavad-gītā [indistinct] the purposes of a small pond are immediately fulfilled by a large reservoir of water [japa] understand [indistinct] the Vedas. All the Vedas [indistinct] all the puerile activities, the rules and regulations. Just fix your mind on Kṛṣṇa [indistinct].

The next offence is, "To instruct a faithless person about the glories of the holy name. Anyone can take part in chanting the holy name of the Lord, but in the beginning one should not be instructed about the transcendental potency of the Lord. Those who are too sinful cannot appreciate the transcendental glories of the Lord, and therefore it is better in the beginning not to instruct them in this matter."

However the process of chanting Hare Krishna works so quickly to cleanse the mind that in a very short time the devotees who have come to Kṛṣṇa consciousness relish the activities of the Lord in His form as Kṛṣṇa and in fact the pastimes of Lord Kṛṣṇa are so powerful. Śrīla Prabhupāda points out in the introduction of Kṛṣṇa Book that even if a materialist reads about the activities of Kṛṣṇa and the gopīs and he understands them only on the level of a young boy and young girl.

Still they will become purified because these activities are 100% transcendental. Kṛṣṇa's pastimes are completely purifying, so anyone who appreciates Kṛṣṇa's activities becomes purified. So we must always try to fix our mind on Kṛṣṇa-Kṛṣṇa's activities, Kṛṣṇa's lotus feet...

Prabhupāda: Bhavauṣadhi śrotra-mano-'bhirāmāt [SB 10.1.4]. Kṛṣṇa's pastimes are described as the medicine of the disease, bhava. Bhava means repeated birth and death. This is a disease. So bhavauṣadhi. The medicine, panacea, for curing this disease, bhavauṣadhi. At the same time, śrotra-mano-'bhirāmāt: it is very pleasing to hear, and very enlightening to the heart. Kṛṣṇa's name is so nice, Kṛṣṇa's pastime is so nice, that it is very pleasing, satisfying, at the same time, it is the medicine for the disease of repeated birth and death. [continues japa]

Jagadīśa: [continues lecture] This is the very reason why Kṛṣṇa appears in the material world at all. He appears so that others may know and hear of His transcendental activities and thereby be attracted to offer to Him and be engaged on the spiritual platform and give up all material desires. Just to know Kṛṣṇa's activities and pastimes are all attractive, Kṛṣṇa means all attractive and His pastimes are to attract the conditioned souls to give up.

Give up material association and go back to Kṛṣṇa be with Kṛṣṇa in the spiritual realm. And the last offence is, "To not have complete faith in the chanting of the holy names and to maintain material attachments, even after understanding so many instructions on this matter." One of the qualities of...

Prabhupāda: The more you become free from material harassment, the more you make advance in spiritual life, or the more you make advance in spiritual life, the more you become detached to the material life. These are the tests. Bhaktiḥ pareśānubhavo viraktir anyatra syāt [SB 11.2.42]. Bhakti, devotional life, spiritual life, the test is that viraktir anyatra. Anyatra means beyond, without Kṛṣṇa, everything becomes detestful.

The example is given just like a hungry man, when he's eating, as he's eating so he's feeling satisfaction and no hunger, proportionately. And at one time it will come, he'll say, "No, I don't want any more. I am completely satisfied." Svāmin kṛtārtho 'smi varaṁ na yāce [Cc. Madhya 22.42]. Just like Dhruva Mahārāja. He said, "I am now completely satisfied. I have..., I haven't got to ask anything, benediction."

That is the progress and ultimate goal of bhakti. As soon as one is saturated with bhakti, he has no more demand, no more attraction for this material world. Not... Kṛṣṇa attraction means decreasing attraction for the material world. Go on. [chants japa] One can test his advancement for spiritual life, how he is being detached to the material life.

That's all. It is not to be taken certificate from others. Just like when you eat, you haven't got to take certificate from others. You'll feel, "Yes, I'm satisfied." That's all. You don't require, while eating nicely, you don't require to take certificate: "Am I eating nicely?"

Devotees: [laughter]

Prabhupāda: You'll know yourself. [japa]

Jagadīśa: One must be convinced of success and Viṣṇu is success the only key to advancement. So Kṛṣṇa gives a taste, you feel satisfaction coming, just like when eating one feels the satisfaction. In Kṛṣṇa consciousness this satisfaction is coming.

Prabhupāda: Another example is given: the candy. Candy, when a man is suffering from jaundice disease, if you give him candy, he'll taste it bitter. That means more one is materially suffering, he'll not be interested to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. But the example is this: The candy is the only medicine for jaundice. So we have to give him candy by force. And as he cure, as he cures, he'll say, "Oh, candy's very nice. Candy's sweet." [laughter]

So in the beginning we have to force. We have to give the medicine just like horse is given medicine. Three men required to induce medicine to the mouth of the horse. So this is our duty, to inject Hare Kṛṣṇa medicine, just like pushing medicine in the throat of a horse. By force. [laughter] [japa]

[devotees chant fire sacrifice prayers]

[I offer my respectful obeisances unto the lotus feet of my spiritual master and of all the other preceptors on the path of devotional service. I offer my respectful obeisances unto all the Vaiṣṇavas and unto the six Gosvāmīs, including Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī, Śrīla Sanātana Gosvāmī, Raghunātha dāsa Gosvāmī, Jīva Gosvāmī, and their associates. I offer my respectful obeisances unto Advaita Ācārya Prabhu, Śrī Nityānanda Prabhu, Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, and all His devotees, headed by Śrīvāsa Ṭhākura. I then offer my respectful obeisances unto the lotus feet of Lord Kṛṣṇa, Śrīmatī Rādhārānī, and all the gopīs, headed by Lalitā and Viśākhā.]

[I offer my respectful obeisances unto His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda, who is very dear to Lord Kṛṣṇa on this earth, having taken shelter at His lotus feet.]

[Our respectful obeisances are unto you, O spiritual master, servant of Sarasvatī Gosvāmī. You are kindly preaching the message of Lord Caitanyadeva and delivering the Western countries, which are filled with impersonalism and voidism.]

[I offer my respectful obeisances unto my spiritual master, who has opened my eyes, which were blinded by the darkness of ignorance, with the torchlight of knowledge.]

[I offer my respectful obeisances unto His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī, who is very dear to Lord Kṛṣṇa, having taken shelter at His lotus feet.]

[I offer my respectful obeisances to Śrī Vārṣabhānavī-devī-dayita dāsa [another name of Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī], who is favored by Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī and who is the ocean of transcendental mercy and the deliverer of the science of Kṛṣṇa.]

I offer my respectful obeisances unto you, the personified energy of Śrī Caitanya's mercy, who deliver devotional service which is enriched with conjugal love of Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa, coming exactly in the line of revelation of Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī.]

Prabhupāda: Then neck, neck beads. Neck beads let them...

Jagadīśa:

siddhānta-dhvānta-hāriṇe

[I offer my respectful obeisances unto you, who are the personified teachings of Lord Caitanya. You are the deliverer of the fallen souls. You do not tolerate any statement which is against the teachings of devotional service enunciated by Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī.]

[I offer my respectful obeisances unto Gaura-kiśora dāsa Bābājī Mahārāja [the spiritual master of Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī], who is renunciation personified. He is always merged in a feeling of separation and intense love of Kṛṣṇa.

[I offer my respectful obeisances unto Saccidānanda Bhaktivinoda, who is transcendental energy of Caitanya Mahāprabhu. He is a strict follower of the Gosvāmīs, headed by Śrīla Rūpa.]

[I offer my respectful obeisances to Jagannātha dāsa Bābājī, who is respected by the entire Vaiṣṇava community and who discovered the place where Lord Caitanya appeared.]

[I offer my respectful obeisances unto all the Vaiṣṇava devotees of the Lord. They are just like desire trees who can fulfill the desires of everyone, and they are full of compassion for the fallen conditioned souls.]

[O most munificent incarnation! You are Kṛṣṇa Himself appearing as Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya Mahāprabhu. You have assumed the golden color of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī, and You are widely distributing pure love of Kṛṣṇa. We offer our respectful obeisances unto You.]

[I offer my obeisances unto the Supreme Lord, Kṛṣṇa, who is nondifferent from His features as a devotee, devotional incarnation, devotional manifestation, pure devotee, and devotional energy.]

[Glory to the all-merciful Rādhā and Madana-mohana! I am lame and ill advised, yet They are my directors, and Their lotus feet are everything to me.]

[O my dear Kṛṣṇa, ocean of mercy, You are the friend of the distressed and the source of creation. You are the master of the cowherd men and the lover of the gopīs, especially Rādhārāṇī. I offer my respectful obeisances unto You.

[In a temple of jewels in Vṛndāvana, underneath a desire tree, Śrī Śrī Rādhā-Govinda, served by Their most confidential associates, sit upon an effulgent throne. I offer my most humble obeisances unto Them.]

[I offer my respects to Rādhārāṇī, whose bodily complexion is like molten gold and who is the Queen of Vṛndāvana. You are the daughter of King Vṛṣabhānu, and You are very dear to Lord Kṛṣṇa.]

Jagadīśa: Those who are second initiates taking the brahminical initiation. This has been called by His Divine Grace as more important than the first initiation. Receiving Gāyatrī mantra is supposed to be done, done only by those who have become fixed up in the mode of goodness.

Earlier on I was explaining about the lust full coverings of the living entities. How the lustful covering can be completely cleansed by the chanting of Hare Krishna.

Prabhupāda: Go on. I shall distribute this. Who is this?

Jagadīśa: Should I go on, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Jagadīśa: So, after a year's time or less, sometimes more.

[lecture continues in background] [devotees coming up, taking initiation]

Prabhupāda: Ātmārāma dāsa. Ātmārāma means who is satisfied with self-realization. Next?

Devotee: Purañjana.

Prabhupāda: Purañjana was a great king, devotee, in the history. [japa]

Jagadīśa: He is completely fixed up in the mode of goodness. Completely cleansed of all lustful coverings. Lustful coverings due to contamination with association with the material modes. So after a short time, if one is qualified because he is fixed in the mode of goodness. Mode of goodness means he is not attracted by the objects of the senses. Belly, anger, the tongue, genitals and so forth. We have to be completely free from material attachments.

Devotee: Purañjana.

Prabhupāda: Purañjana was a great king, devotee, in the history. [japa]

Jagadīśa: All material attachments are completely wiped away by the chanting Hare Krishna. One becomes fixed in the mode of goodness and by taking brahminical initiation from the spiritual master one then eventually becomes qualified, becomes situated in pure goodness and therefore can become a spiritual master himself.

Prabhupāda: [japa]

Jagadīśa: Sometimes the tongue as in the case of Śrīla Śukadeva Gosvāmī. He was not required to undergo any purificatory activities and Śukadeva Gosvāmī was completely liberated from birth. But this brahminical initiation is a second birth. This is the title given to the spirit soul taking a second birth. It is dvija, twice born.

Devotee: Aprākṛta.

Prabhupāda: Aprākṛta. Aprākṛta means transcendental. Yes. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Then, next?

There are different stages of understanding. First understanding is direct perception, pratyakṣa. In Sanskrit word it is called pratyakṣa, direct understanding. That tenth-class understanding. That is not actually understanding, direct perception. But people are giving stress that "I want to see. I want to touch." This is called pratyakṣa.

Then next is parokṣa, hearing from authorities. Then aparokṣa, realizing. Then adhokṣaja means beyond the perception of the senses. And then aprākṛta, transcendental. These are the stages for going to the aprākṛta, transcendental stage. From direct perception, then pratyakṣa, parokṣa, to take instruction from others. Then realization. Then beyond these senses. Then aprākṛta, transcendental.

So Kṛṣṇa is aprākṛta. Kṛṣṇa cannot be understood by direct sense perception. Gradually you have to rise to the aprākṛta stage, which is called vasudeva stage, beyond this material understanding. That will take time. You have to practice that. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Come on.

Devotee: Hiraṇyagarbha.

Prabhupāda: Hiraṇyagarbha. Hiraṇyagarbha is Lord Brahmā's name. Or Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu's name. Generally Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu's. Hiraṇyagarbha dāsa. That's all right.

Then, next? Where is...? No neck bead? How is that? Heh? Where is neck bead? Huh? Oh, these things are not good. It must be well equipped. Otherwise, what is the meaning of initiation?

Give... No neck bead? Go on. First of all get neck beads. Who is next? You have got neck beads? [indistinct comment by devotee] That's alright.

Devotee: Viśvakarmā dāsa.

Prabhupāda: Viśvakarmā. That's nice. Viśvakarmā is the engineer of this universe. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya. You know what are the rules and regulation?

Viśvakarmā: No intoxication, no illicit sex...

Prabhupāda: That's right. Next? [laughter] Come on.

Devotee: Dineśvara dāsa.

Prabhupāda: Dineśvara. Dineśvara is the name of sun, sun-god. Come on. We are all dāsa, not the person. When you call "Kṛṣṇa," "Kṛṣṇa" means Kṛṣṇa dāsa. When you call Dineśvara, Dineśvara means Dineśvara's servant. Our position is always servant. Dāsa-anudāsa [Cc. Madhya 13.80]. Servant of the servant, servant of the servant. The more..., the more you become on the lower status of servant, our position is greater. This is...

Come on. Next. [japa]

You arranged for offering this sacrifice? You arranged? [indistinct comment by devotee] What is name?

Devotee: Mahāvī dāsa.

Prabhupāda: Mahā...?

Devotee: Mahāvī.

Prabhupāda: Eh? Mahāvīra. Mahāvīra.

Devotee: M-a-h-a-v-i.

Prabhupāda: Eh?

Devotee: M-a-h-a-v-i. Mahāvī?

Prabhupāda: M-h-a...

Devotee: M-a-h-a-v-i.

Prabhupāda: ...'r' Mahāvīra. Mahāvīra is the name of Hanumān, the servant of Lord Rāmacandra. He was very strong. He could raise even the hills for service of the Lord. Mahāvīra. Mahā means great, and vīra means hero. Come on. Hare Kṛṣṇa. [laughter] Don't laugh.

Then? [japa]

Devotee: Bahirṣmatī dāsī.

Prabhupāda: Bahiṣmatī, one of the daughters of Manu. Come on. Hare Kṛṣṇa. You know what are the rules? Tell me.

Bahiṣmatī: No meat-eating, no illicit sex, no intoxication, no gambling.

Prabhupāda: Thank you. Hare Kṛṣṇa.

Prabhupāda: Come on. Next. Who's is this?

Devotee: Went to get some neck beads on.

Prabhupāda: Oh, all right. Then how many still remaining?

Devotee: Three.

Prabhupāda: All right. [japa] First of all grains mixed up. [japa]

Come on. Take your... Come on.

Whose beads are lying on the floor there? Whose beads?

Oh, you never put it in the floor. When there is no bag, you put like this.

Devotee: Mahāyogi.

Prabhupāda: Mahāyogi. Mahāyogi is a name of Lord Śiva. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Take. [japa]

Devotee: Uttamaśloka. Uttamaśloka dāsa.

Prabhupāda: Uttamaśloka. Uttamaśloka means Kṛṣṇa who is chanted with best verses. Come on. [japa]

Jagadīśa: The mantras can be recited again, and this time the initiates can mix up the grains in their hands and throw, at the end of each prayer, the grains on the fire by saying svāhā and pouring ghee on the fire. All the initiates. All the initiates should surround the fire. Those who are not initiates can leave.

[devotees chant fire sacrifice prayers]

Svāhā. Svāhā. Svāhā.

[I offer my respectful obeisances unto the lotus feet of my spiritual master and of all the other preceptors on the path of devotional service. I offer my respectful obeisances unto all the Vaiṣṇavas and unto the six Gosvāmīs, including Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī, Śrīla Sanātana Gosvāmī, Raghunātha dāsa Gosvāmī, Jīva Gosvāmī, and their associates. I offer my respectful obeisances unto Advaita Ācārya Prabhu, Śrī Nityānanda Prabhu, Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, and all His devotees, headed by Śrīvāsa Ṭhākura. I then offer my respectful obeisances unto the lotus feet of Lord Kṛṣṇa, Śrīmatī Rādhārānī, and all the gopīs, headed by Lalitā and Viśākhā.]

nama oṁ viṣṇu-pādāya kṛṣṇa-preṣṭhāya bhū-tale

Prabhupāda: You keep it.

Jagadīśa:

śrīmate bhaktisiddhānta-sarasvatīti nāmine

[I offer my respectful obeisances unto His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī, who is very dear to Lord Kṛṣṇa, having taken shelter at His lotus feet.]

Svāhā. Svāhā. Svāhā.

[Our respectful obeisances are unto you, O spiritual master, servant of Sarasvatī Gosvāmī. You are kindly preaching the message of Lord Caitanyadeva and delivering the Western countries, which are filled with impersonalism and voidism.]

Prabhupāda: You keep it. You keep it. [prayers continue] So where is that, he has come? Waiting. I'm going just now. [japa]

Jagadīśa:

...yena tasmai śrī-gurave namaḥ

Svāhā. Svāhā. Svāhā.

[I offer my respectful obeisances unto my spiritual master, who has opened my eyes, which were blinded by the darkness of ignorance, with the torchlight of knowledge.]

[I offer my respectful obeisances unto His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī, who is very dear to Lord Kṛṣṇa, having taken shelter at His lotus feet.]

[I offer my respectful obeisances to Śrī Vārṣabhānavī-devī-dayita dāsa [another name of Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī], who is favored by Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī and who is the ocean of transcendental mercy and the deliverer of the science of Kṛṣṇa.]

mādhuryojjvala-premāḍhya-śrī-rūpānuga...

Devotee: Bhagavatī.

Prabhupāda: Bhagavatī. Goddess Durgā's name. Goddess Durgā, external energy of Kṛṣṇa. [japa]

...bhaktida
śrī-gaura-karuṇā-śakti-vigrahāya namo 'stu te

I offer my respectful obeisances unto you, the personified energy of Śrī Caitanya's mercy, who deliver devotional service which is enriched with conjugal love of Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa, coming exactly in the line of revelation of Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī.]

Svāhā. Svāhā. Svāhā.

[I offer my respectful obeisances unto you, who are the personified teachings of Lord Caitanya. You are the deliverer of the fallen souls. You do not tolerate any statement which is against the teachings of devotional service enunciated by Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī.]

Svāhā. Svāhā. Svāhā.

[I offer my respectful obeisances unto Gaura-kiśora dāsa Bābājī Mahārāja [the spiritual master of Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī], who is renunciation personified. He is always merged in a feeling of separation and intense love of Kṛṣṇa.

Svāhā. Svāhā. Svāhā.

[I offer my respectful obeisances unto Saccidānanda Bhaktivinoda, who is transcendental energy of Caitanya Mahāprabhu. He is a strict follower of the Gosvāmīs, headed by Śrīla Rūpa.]

Svāhā. Svāhā. Svāhā.

[I offer my respectful obeisances to Jagannātha dāsa Bābājī, who is respected by the entire Vaiṣṇava community and who discovered the place where Lord Caitanya appeared.]

Svāhā. Svāhā. Svāhā.

[I offer my respectful obeisances unto all the Vaiṣṇava devotees of the Lord. They are just like desire trees who can fulfill the desires of everyone, and they are full of compassion for the fallen conditioned souls.]

Svāhā. Svāhā. Svāhā.

[O most munificent incarnation! You are Kṛṣṇa Himself appearing as Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya Mahāprabhu. You have assumed the golden color of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī, and You are widely distributing pure love of Kṛṣṇa. We offer our respectful obeisances unto You.]

Svāhā. Svāhā. Svāhā.

[I offer my obeisances unto the Supreme Lord, Kṛṣṇa, who is nondifferent from His features as a devotee, devotional incarnation, devotional manifestation, pure devotee, and devotional energy.]

Svāhā. Svāhā. Svāhā.

[Glory to the all-merciful Rādhā and Madana-mohana! I am lame and ill advised, yet They are my directors, and Their lotus feet are everything to me.]

[O my dear Kṛṣṇa, ocean of mercy, You are the friend of the distressed and the source of creation. You are the master of the cowherd men and the lover of the gopīs, especially Rādhārāṇī. I offer my respectful obeisances unto You.

Svāhā. Svāhā. Svāhā.

Devotee: Tapasvinī.

Prabhupāda: Tapasvinī: who performs great austerity. [indistinct] ...after performing sacred thread initiation..

Devotee: Sacred thread initiation? [indistinct].

Prabhupāda: So we can go. [indistinct].

Jagadīśa:

Prabhupāda: [leaves] [Devotees offering obeisances]

devau
preṣṭhālībhiḥ sevyamānau smarāmi

Svāhā. Svāhā. Svāhā.

[In a temple of jewels in Vṛndāvana, underneath a desire tree, Śrī Śrī Rādhā-Govinda, served by Their most confidential associates, sit upon an effulgent throne. I offer my most humble obeisances unto Them.]

Svāhā. Svāhā. Svāhā.

[Śrī Śrīla Gopīnātha, who originated the transcendental mellow of the rāsa dance, stands on the shore in Vaṁśīvaṭa and attracts the attention of the cowherd damsels with the sound of His celebrated flute. May they all confer upon us their benediction.]

Svāhā. Svāhā. Svāhā.

[I offer my respects to Rādhārāṇī, whose bodily complexion is like molten gold and who is the Queen of Vṛndāvana. You are the daughter of King Vṛṣabhānu, and You are very dear to Lord Kṛṣṇa.]

Jagadīśa: Everyone stand up.

Svāhā. Svāhā. Svāhā.

namo [end]